In difficult and continuously tumultuous times like these, it is natural for us to look for examples of leadership that can pull us through. Dr. Hilliard shares points of inspiration from the lives of two men who understand persecution and hardship well: Kind David and the Apostle Paul. When abandoned by those that should have loved them, when pursued by those that hated them, these two men withstood the temptations to give up and give in. If you are searching for a beacon of courage to still SAY YES in the midst of these difficult times, this episode is a must listen!