This episode explores a global battle of values between China and leading democracies over issues like Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang.

It’s being fought with an array of covert weapons, from cyber attacks and information operations to economic coercion and even something called “lawfare”.

Allegations of such behaviour are made and denied by both sides, which of course is to be expected - in the grey zone.

Guests:
Tom Tugendhat, Conservative MP, chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee
Matthew Turpin, visiting fellow, Hoover Institution
Charlie Parton, former British diplomat, senior fellow at the Royal United Services Institute
Dr Shi Yinhong, Director of the Academic Committee of the School of International Studies and US Research Center of Renmin University in Beijing
Nathan Law, pro-democracy activist from Hong Kong
Julie Marionneau, research fellow, Policy Exchange
Freddy Lim, Taiwanese politician, lead singer of heavy-metal band Chthonic
Alexander Downer, former Australian foreign minister
Puma Shen, assistant professor at National Taipei University
Chinese embassy in London – via email statement

Credits:
Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes
Edited and produced by Chris Scott
Production support from Michael Greenfield
The head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris