Kaitlyn talks about the power of understanding both sides (even if you disagree), a theology of politics, and how the church needs to tell better stories.   SHOW NOTES:  1:00 - Kaitlyn's debate team roots 9:15 - the cutthroat world of seminary, and the transition to full time ministry  13:14 - "it's not that churches are TOO political, it's that they are insufficiently political." 18:22 - the impossibility of being "separate from the world." 22:00 - churches need to learn to tell better stories  26:45 - the stories our worship songs tell us  28:00 - "our church's statement on race relations was that we baptized a black man"  32:17 - confession as political activism 35:50 - the stories our news, shows, podcasts, and preaching tell us  42:00 - churches are priming people to believe conspiracy theories(!)  43:13 - why is God better than we think?  48:00 - how to pray for Kaitlyn