On today's episode, I speak with Shea and Michelle from "The Pantry Podcast." Michelle and Shea are co-hosts, but they're also married! I do hope that regardless of your religious beliefs or affiliation, you'll take something away from this episode. For me, our conversation reminded me of some basic creative truths -- namely, that what's right for one creatively, can't always be confined to data or statistics or SEO.

It also gave me insight into what it's like to maintain both a podcast and a marriage. And it gave me a glimpse into the Christian podcasting world. I am so grateful to Shea and Michelle for taking the time to speak with me. And I hope you enjoy the conversation too.