I delve into fascinating exchanges between Christopher Mellon, a former high-ranking U.S. government official, and others regarding alleged UFO crash retrieval programs. Mellon shares Signal app messages suggesting insider knowledge of a 1953 UFO crash in Kingman, Arizona, and the management structure of a secret crash retrieval program overseen by high-level Air Force gatekeepers. I analyze Mellon's exchanges with Sean Kirkpatrick of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and their difficulties obtaining information from alleged whistleblower David Grusch. The podcast provides intriguing insights into claims of recovered off-world materials and technology, government secrecy surrounding UFO incidents, and struggles for transparency within the investigative community.

Podcast published on 26 April 2024.