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Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness. Recorded...
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Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness.
Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.
Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out.
For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness.
🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens:
👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link
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Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.
Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out.
For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness.
🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens:
👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link
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27 APR 2026 · In this episode of Inner Sound Studio, Nat and Mat explore the feeling many artists carry—questioning whether their life is “interesting enough” to create meaningful art.
They dive into impostor syndrome, creating from imagination versus lived experience, and how even the most ordinary moments can hold deep emotional truth.
This conversation moves through creativity, memory, healing, and presence—uncovering the idea that you don’t need a dramatic life to make powerful art.
Sometimes, simply being alive is more than enough. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
20 APR 2026 · In this episode of Inner Sound Studio with Nat & Mat, we explore a simple but powerful question:
Why do we keep repeating the same patterns in life?
From overthinking and emotional reactions to deeper unconscious habits, it can often feel like we’re stuck in loops we don’t fully understand. But what if the issue isn’t your life… it’s how the mind is operating beneath the surface?
This conversation looks at awareness, identity, and the space between reacting and observing. When you begin to notice your patterns clearly, something shifts — and real change becomes possible.
A grounded, honest discussion on breaking cycles, understanding the mind, and finding a little more freedom in everyday life. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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7 APR 2026 · In this episode of Inner Sound Studio (Nat & Mat Podcast) we explore a curious paradox of life:
Why do things often arrive only after we stop chasing them?
The conversation moves through ideas of detachment, success, suffering, and awareness, and why learning to let go doesn’t mean withdrawing from life — it may actually allow us to participate in it more fully.
Mat and Nat also explore the difference between pain and suffering, why developing special abilities or talents doesn’t necessarily mean wisdom, and how awareness changes the way we relate to success, failure, and the things we accumulate along the way.
This episode is a reflective conversation about creativity, consciousness, and the strange way life sometimes begins to cooperate when we stop trying to control it.
If you enjoy conversations about philosophy, meditation, creativity, and the deeper patterns of life, this episode will resonate. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
30 MAR 2026 · Why do we sometimes hold back from the very things we love the most?
In this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, Nat and Mat explore a curious pattern in human behaviour — the tendency to avoid putting full effort into the passions that matter most to us. Whether it’s music, creativity, relationships, or personal growth, many people find themselves hesitating at the very moment they care the most.
Is it fear of failure? Fear of judgement? Or something deeper within the human psyche?
Nat and Mat unpack the subtle ways we protect ourselves from vulnerability, and how this protective instinct can sometimes stop us from fully expressing what we love.
This conversation touches on creativity, self-awareness, and the strange ways our minds try to keep us safe — even when it means holding us back.
A thoughtful and honest discussion about passion, effort, and learning to move beyond the invisible barriers we place in front of ourselves. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
23 MAR 2026 · Why do we spend so much time comparing ourselves to others?
In this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, we explore the quiet habit of comparison and how it can slowly distort the way we see ourselves and our lives. It’s something almost everyone does — measuring our progress, talents, and even our happiness against the people around us.
But what if that entire game is unnecessary?
During the conversation we reflect on a simple idea:
A flower doesn’t compete with the flower next to it… it just blooms.
From there the discussion moves into deeper territory — identity, self-perception, and the strange feeling that while our personalities change throughout life, something inside us seems to remain the same.
In this episode we talk about:
• Why comparison can make us miserable • How the mind creates identity • The difference between who we think we are and who we actually are • Learning to let go of unnecessary competition • Allowing yourself to simply grow in your own way
A relaxed conversation about awareness, identity, and the freedom that comes when we stop measuring ourselves against everyone else.
Sometimes the healthiest thing we can do is simply be ourselves and bloom in our own time. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
16 MAR 2026 · In this episode of Nat & Mat, we explore a common trap many artists fall into: judging their work before it has a chance to grow.
Natalie shares a quote from Maya Angelou — “The more you use it, the more you have.” It sparks a conversation about the fear many creative people experience: the feeling that their best work might already be behind them.
Mat reflects on how easy it is for artists to sabotage themselves by constantly rejecting their ideas too early. When every new idea is immediately labeled “not good enough,” we unknowingly practice the habit of creating more doubt instead of more art.
The conversation explores:
- Why artists often believe their best work is behind them
- How early self-criticism blocks creativity
- The surprising power of practicing the right mindset
- Why whatever you practice, you get better at
- The importance of letting creativity move before judging the result
Using simple metaphors — like steering a car away from a tree when you’re sliding — Mat explains how attention shapes the direction of our creative work.
Sometimes the problem isn’t talent. Sometimes we’ve simply put the cart before the horse.
Nat & Mat is a series of conversations about creativity, awareness, music, and the strange experience of being human. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
9 MAR 2026 · What happens when you know emotions are there… but you can’t feel them?
In this episode of Nat & Mat, we explore the strange experience of emotional disconnection — those moments when you feel numb, apathetic, or creatively blocked.
Natalie asks a simple but powerful question: How do you connect with emotions you know exist, but can’t access?
Mat explores why this happens and why it might not be a problem at all. Sometimes emotional numbness isn’t brokenness — it’s regulation. Other times it’s the result of living in a stable environment where we rarely experience contrast.
In this conversation we explore:
- Why emotional numbness can be completely normal
- How comparison creates emotional intensity
- The idea of the mind as a lens that can become foggy over time
- Practices that help “polish the lens” — meditation, movement, and presence
- Why trying to force emotions often makes them harder to feel
- How emotional connection fuels creativity and artistic expression
We also talk about depression, apathy, spiritual practices, and why learning to sit with emotions — instead of fighting them — can transform the way we experience life.
If you’ve ever felt emotionally flat, creatively blocked, or wondered whether something is wrong with you… this episode might change the way you see it.
Sometimes the goal isn’t to create emotion.
Sometimes the goal is simply to be present enough to notice what’s already there. 🎧 Nat & Mat Podcast Conversations about creativity, awareness, music, and the strange experience of being human. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Transcribed
2 MAR 2026 · There’s a strange tension in songwriting.
You sit down to create something honest… but somewhere along the way, the outcome sneaks in.
Will this be good? Will people like it? Will it stream? Will it define me?
In this episode, Nat and Mat talk about the subtle attachment artists develop to results — and how that attachment can quietly suffocate creativity.
We explore:
• Writing from pressure vs writing from presence • The fear of releasing imperfect work • Identity wrapped up in a song’s success • How letting go of outcome can actually make better art
This isn’t about pretending outcomes don’t matter.
It’s about noticing when they start driving the process.
If you’re a songwriter, producer, or creative of any kind — this conversation might feel uncomfortably familiar.
Make the song. Tell the truth. Then let it go.
— Nat & Mat Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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23 FEB 2026 · In this episode of Nat & Mat, we unpack something deceptively simple — acceptance.
What does it actually mean to surrender? Is surrender weakness… or intelligence? And why does fighting time feel like swimming upstream?
We explore how resistance creates suffering, how control is often an illusion, and what shifts when we stop trying to bend reality to our will. From personal stories to philosophical detours, this conversation moves through presence, ego, patience, and the strange freedom that comes when you stop arguing with life.
This one feels calm… but it cuts deep.
If you’ve ever felt frustrated with how things are unfolding — this episode might land exactly where it needs to.
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Listen. Reflect. Let go (a little). Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
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12 FEB 2026 · In Season 2, Episode 3 of Nat & Mat, we ask one of the most overused — and misunderstood — questions of all time:
What is love?
Is it chemistry? Attachment? Devotion? Projection? A biological trick? A spiritual force? Or something we only recognise once it’s gone?
Nat & Mat dive deep into the layers of romance, ego, expectation, heartbreak, and the uncomfortable truths we don’t like to admit about connection. This isn’t a fluffy conversation about roses and fairy tales — it’s an honest, strange, and sometimes hilarious exploration of what actually drives us toward each other… and away.
As always, expect sharp turns, unexpected humour, uncomfortable questions, and a few moments that might make you rethink your own story.
If love is the most powerful force in our lives… why does it confuse us so much?
🎧 Listen now on https://chatgpt//generic-entity?number=0, https://chatgpt//generic-entity?number=1, https://chatgpt//generic-entity?number=2, https://chatgpt//generic-entity?number=3 and everywhere you get your podcasts. Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.
Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness. Recorded...
show more
Hosted by artist Natalie Zannoni (aka Iris Belhaze) and music producer Mat Creedon, The Inner Studio is a space for open, real conversations.Two perspectives grounded in one shared consciousness.
Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.
Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out.
For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness.
🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens:
👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link
show less
Recorded live in the studio where they create music together, these conversations explore the creative process, the nature of existence, and what it means to live and create from a deeper place.
Natalie’s raw, instinctive questioning meets Mat’s grounded, often humorous perspective as they navigate both the physical and the spiritual in real time no filters, no scripts, no pretending to have it all figured out.
For artists, creatives, and anyone learning to move through life with more presence, less noise, and a deeper sense of awareness.
🎧 Hear the music they’re creating as it happens:
👉 Listen to Iris Belhaze: Spotify Link 👉 Listen to Mat Creedon: Spotify Link
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| Author | Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) |
| Organization | Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) |
| Categories | Society & Culture , Personal Journals , Philosophy |
| Website | www.matcreedon.com |
| mat@matcreedon.net |
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